1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Tonight on Fact or Faked, Paranormal Files. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Whoa! 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Do you actually feel this presence? 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 I can feel them watching over me. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Dive! 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,000 That was weird. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 All of a sudden, my walkie goes off. 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,000 So you're seeing what I'm seeing. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 There is something under the boat right now. 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 In three sides of the boat. 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Oh my god! 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 There's a flying saucer. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Getting a series of lights right there. 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Oh my god! 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 What the heck is happening? 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Good morning. 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 How's it going? 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,000 How's it going? 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Good. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Hey guys. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Guys, what do we have today? 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Chilan, what do you have? 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 I have a great ghost story, guys. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It looks like it comes from a police officer's dash camp. 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 You're going to see an entire human-like figure walk across the road. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Totally spooky, guys. 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Check it out. 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Wow. 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 There it is. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Oh my god! 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000 What is that? 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 The background on this video is a little mysterious. 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 This is actually coming from David Fortin. 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 He posted it online and the way that he found it was 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 he had rented out a place to a retired police officer. 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 This police officer passed away and as he was going in and cleaning out his items 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 he found this video. 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,000 The fact that it wasn't the police officer who posted it is my only big issue with this. 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 We can't really talk to the witness who would be the police officer who did the filming. 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I agree with Chilan. 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,000 We have an authenticated this actually came from a police officer's dash camp. 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 What do you guys think about it? 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 I really like it. 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 I just think we need to get authenticated. 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Definitely. 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Let me work a little bit more on this case, guys, 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 but I was just honestly so excited about the video I wanted to bring it to you right away. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,000 I like it too. 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 It's a good one. 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,000 I think that if we can get it authenticated it's really came from a police officer from his dash camp. 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Maybe we can go find other people he talked to. 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Right? 53 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Okay. 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Let's move on to Austin. 55 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Alright guys, so I got one I just recently discovered. 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Supposedly kind of like a triangle UFO. 57 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Check it out. 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Let me know what you guys think. 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 You can hear the toddler in the background talking to his father. 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,000 So here's one thing is that one of the lights actually moves and they change formations. 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 That movement is kind of strange. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 I do know about this case. 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Oh you do? 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Yeah. 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 This video was created by a filmmaker named Blake Cousins. 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,000 He's actually created a whole series of paranormal videos. 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Notice how these lights really appear to be simply two dimensional. 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Stop. 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 These lights are supposed to be behind the pole but it pops to the front. 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Simply because it's very labor intensive to track it properly. 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 That's a pretty clear evidence that it's a CGI. 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 So did he pay some kid just act excited about seeing this? 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,000 He's actually using his son for the child's voice to add to the realism. 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Creates an eyewitness feel to it. 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 It was a pretty good job. 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 It looks good for the moment until we figured that out. 77 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 So it's a good video but it's not authentic. 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,000 It doesn't warrant any further research we're looking into. 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 So let's move on to Larry. 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Okay guys so the case I'm bringing you today is a little out of the ordinary but I really like it. 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,000 It's some pictures that were taken in a smaller community in Hawaii called Mililani. 82 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And it's of this girl starting all the way back in 1994 when she was four months old. 83 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Her grandmother would take pictures of her and there would be an image. 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Which they're claiming to be her guardian spirit. 85 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Whoa that's creepy. 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 It never appears by itself and it never appears with any other family member just with this girl. 87 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Now it's been happening all the way until now and she's 16 years old. 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000 It is odd how the granddaughter's hair seems to be smearing across the spiral. 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,000 The granddaughter who wishes to stay anonymous says that she senses the presence of whatever this is. 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 She can't see it until the photos developed. 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 It could just be lens interference. It could be something physical. It could be something with the film. 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 I mean there are all these different factors. 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000 She has used several different cameras. She's also claimed that she cuts the strap off the camera 94 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 because that's one of the typical explanations of what this is. 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Does she seem pretty credible when you talk to her? 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Yeah it seems extremely credible to me. She has nothing to gain from this at all. 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:18,000 I'd be very cautious before I say this is paranormal but it does look like the granddaughter is noticing this. 98 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Spirit. 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 What do you guys think? Is it worth our time to go out and look at this Austin? 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Yeah I think it's different than what we've done and I'm always up for trying new things. 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 I've seen a lot of photos like this. I'd like to finally get to the bottom of it. 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Alright guys, well we have some more videos to look at. Here's one that's right up my alley. 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Some of you may have heard of this case before because it's been all over the news. 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:51,000 In March of 2010 Eugene Ehrlich filmed for 8 days straight a series of objects that were coming over the horizon 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 and moving in very strange ways. 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 That was weird. 107 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 That's weird. 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 You see how rapidly that changed course. 109 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 And it yet speeds off. 110 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I can tell you commercial aircraft they don't make turns like that. 111 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 It'd be a whiplash city. 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 A military craft can tackle maneuvers like that. 113 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,000 The Pentagon actually weighed in on it and there's a NASA research facility there. 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,000 And they both said that they were not conducting any exercises or experimenting. 115 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 I'm a huge UFO skeptic and I like this video. 116 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Eugene Ehrlich has cited these since that time I believe but it does seem that they have subsided. 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,000 The problem with this is that there's not enough reference points to really see anyone looking at. 118 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,000 I think it's great but maybe we can wait and see if it happens again. 119 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Well I'm going to stay in touch with Ehrlich and we'll see if we can get something really fresh. 120 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 So let's put it off for now and see what else we have today. 121 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Tiaela here you have a really interesting case for us. 122 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Yes I do. 123 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Well guys I have something that I'm really really excited about. 124 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,000 We're going to be dealing with a mythical creature that's very famous the mermaid. 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Oh I like it already. 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Yes. 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:25,000 So it comes from an Australian filmmaker in 2009 he was testing an underwater camera in the Great Barrier Reef. 128 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:32,000 And he sees something but he didn't realize what it was until later when he went home and reviewed the footage. 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 So take a look. 130 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Check that out. 131 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 I mean this is huge it was a huge hit on the internet as well. 132 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 What did he think it actually was when he first saw this? 133 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Well he wasn't sure and the visibility wasn't that great so after he went home and reviewed it he said to himself this looks so much like a mermaid. 134 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Now the only problem we do have is that the witness wants to stay anonymous. 135 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,000 I think he believes that maybe people will start to think he's a little crazy for claiming that he has seen a mermaid. 136 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 But we have a very compelling video. 137 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 We have ways to test this. 138 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,000 I love the fact that we've never ever seen a mermaid video nor heard of a mermaid case. 139 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 This is a first on a number of levels. 140 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Who votes that we do the mermaid case? 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Yes I agree. 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Okay and let's choose our other case. 143 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 I've seen photos like we see in the Hawaiian Girl Scro pictures. 144 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 It's a case that I want to get to the bottom of. 145 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 I think that the photos from Hawaii would make a compelling case. 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 My vote goes for Hawaii Ghost Girl. 147 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Well Chilan I think you have to be there in Hawaii and being a ghost case Bill I'd like to see you out on more of those. 148 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Definitely. 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Okay. 150 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Well Ben if you and I do the mermaid case we're both certified scuba divers so I think that's a great way to start a hunt. 151 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Austin want to join us? 152 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I don't see any reason why not. 153 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Hawaii and Australia? 154 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Let's do it. 155 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,000 So Kansas Australia. 156 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 The gateway to the Great Barrier Reef. 157 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 So guys this mermaid film that we're investigating. 158 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Even though the filmmaker wants to remain a mermaid, 159 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 I think we have all the information we need to launch a full investigation. 160 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 He did give us information as to where in the Great Barrier Reef it was filmed. 161 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,000 So the first thing I think we should do is do an investigation of the location where this was filmed. 162 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 A reef hunt. 163 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Well the Great Barrier Reef is home to the Great Barrier Reef. 164 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 This could easily be a case of mistaken identity. 165 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 This is the marina. 166 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Let's go find our boat. 167 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 This is the marina. 168 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 This is the marina. 169 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 This is the marina. 170 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 This is the marina. 171 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 This is the marina. 172 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 This is the marina. 173 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 That's it. 174 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 You must be Marcus. 175 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Yes. 176 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I'm Ben. 177 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Welcome aboard the Florida. 178 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,000 So we're launching our investigation right here at the Great Barrier Reef where the mermaid video was shot. 179 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Jaya and I are going to get under the water. 180 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,000 We're going to be searching for any signs, anything that could look like a mermaid. 181 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 We're exploring the possibility. 182 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 The visor is the case of mistaken identity. 183 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,000 It might just be another creature that's indigenous to the area. 184 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Execute a reef hunt in three, two, one, dive. 185 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:24,000 While Ben and Jaya are underwater, I'm going to be here manning the sonar. 186 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,000 So we're going to be having a full scan of everything that's in the water around us. 187 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Ben, do we have clear communication over? 188 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Austin, we copy. 189 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Austin, we're down about 15 to 20 feet at this point over. 190 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 I'm picking it up on the sonar. 191 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 We're going to swim toward the coral to see what we find. 192 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:09,000 We see quite a bit of marine life down here. 193 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,000 How does our location look compared to the original video? 194 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,000 The coral is about the same. I think we're about the same depth. 195 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 We're going to be looking for the same fish. 196 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 We're going to be looking for the same fish. 197 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 We're going to be looking for the same fish. 198 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Jaya, Austin. Something about 30 feet away. 199 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 There it is. I'm seeing it now. I'm picking it up on sonar. 200 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 I'm turning it closer to it. 201 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 It looks pretty sizable. I don't know where it is. 202 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Team, are you catching this? Are you seeing what I am seeing? 203 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 There is something under the boat right now. 204 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked, Paranormal Files. 205 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Do you actually feel this presence? 206 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 I can feel them beside me. 207 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Did you guys just hear that over the walkie? 208 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 I can feel it. 209 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 So for our first experiment, we're going to do a reef hunt, 210 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 searching for anything that could look like a mermaid. 211 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Team, are you catching this? Are you seeing what I am seeing? 212 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Something about 30 feet away. I'm turning it closer to it. 213 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Ben, this looks big. What is it? 214 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Austin, there's a shark down here. I have eyes on a shark. 215 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 It's about four and a half, five feet. 216 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 We see quite a bit of a marine life down here. 217 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Nothing bigger than that and nothing that resembles a mermaid. 218 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 So we're coming back. 219 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 How was it? 220 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Well, it kind of like the video. 221 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 You know, visibility is probably about 30, 40 feet. 222 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 25, 30 feet. 223 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Once we got close, you actually start seeing that this is a shark. 224 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,000 The movement is totally different than what we're seeing in the video. 225 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 So we're dealing with something else. 226 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Still could be a case of mistaken identity. 227 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 I know sailors for thousands of years have mistaken the dugong, 228 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 also known as a sea cow, for a mermaid. 229 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Now we're going to head to the Sydney Aquarium where we can film a live dugong. 230 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,000 There's only actually six dugongs in captivity in the world and they have two of them here. 231 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Nice to meet you. Hi Ben. 232 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 I'm John L. Such a pleasure. 233 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 I'm Austin. 234 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Well, we hear that you're the dugong expert. 235 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Have you ever heard of the theory that dugongs have been mistaken for a mermaid? 236 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 I actually have. I have heard of many, many times. 237 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Really? 238 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,000 In fact, it's so widely believed that we even named our oceanarium mermaid lagoon. 239 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,000 So now we're going to explore the popular theory that mermaid sightings are actually just a case of mistaken identity. 240 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 And the culprit, the dugong. 241 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Oh, look what there is. 242 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Wow. 243 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Look at how huge she is. 244 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 That is way bigger than I thought it was going to be. 245 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Look at the tail. The tail does look so much like it. 246 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 I can see already that the tail's got that kind of graceful movement. 247 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Yeah. 248 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 So for our next test, we're going to be filming the dugong underwater 249 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 and we're going to be looking for its form, shape and movement 250 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 to see if it actually replicates the footage we have of our regimen mermaid. 251 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Even though I would love to jump in this tank and film with the dugongs, 252 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 the ecosystem here is actually pretty delicate. 253 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,000 So we've attached our underwater camera onto a long pole 254 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 so we can get that underwater shot. 255 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I'm going to stay up top. 256 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 And you guys can go to the underwater tunnel 257 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 and try to capture everything as it comes around. 258 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 So I'm going to try to replicate the original footage. 259 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Hopefully we can get the dugong to swim away from us 260 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 so I can get the fin going further and further in that direction 261 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 and that way we can get that same look. 262 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Yep, go ahead, Austin. 263 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Giles got the camera framed up. 264 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Let's go ahead and get this dugong to move. 265 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Okay guys, we're going to fish some more lettuce. 266 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Hopefully the lettuce tray will entice the dugong 267 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 to follow the same path that the mermaid did in the original footage. 268 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Hopefully she'll pass by and come to find something to eat. 269 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 The dugong is approaching underwater can as we speak. 270 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:43,000 As soon as he dropped the lettuce, we were able to control exactly where the dugong went. 271 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! 272 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 That's good. 273 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Oh Austin, this might be our money shot. 274 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 There we go, disappearing into the distance. 275 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 It's a good shot. 276 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Okay, okay. 277 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 As you can see, the swimming motion is very similar. 278 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 The tails were almost exact. 279 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 The swimming pattern almost exact. 280 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Better visibility in this water, I think, than in the video. 281 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 It's just way too bulky. 282 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Let's be honest, anatomically speaking, not an exact match. 283 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,000 I agree. 284 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 You know what? I think it's time to move on to our next theory, 285 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 which is that this could just be a woman in a mermaid suit. 286 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,000 So my suggestion is that we go back to the Great Barrier Reef and we try just that. 287 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 We put a woman in a mermaid suit. 288 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files. 289 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 I have to say that I'm quite nervous. 290 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen. 291 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Three, two, one. 292 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:07,000 We've come as close as we can to trying to replicate the video with animals 293 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 that are indigenous to this area. 294 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Let's be honest, anatomically speaking, not an exact match. 295 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 I agree. 296 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 So now we're heading back to the same spot with the original footage 297 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 we shot to get Jai-Yel in a mermaid suit. 298 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,000 I've made my own mermaid tail out of lycra and a monofin. 299 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 I'm going to be the guy under the water. 300 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,000 I'll see if I can frame it up and get the exact picture we saw in the original video. 301 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 I've got my mermaid tail on. 302 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,000 It feels totally unnatural. 303 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 My legs are bound together. 304 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 And I have to say that I'm quite nervous to just jump into the water this way 305 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 because I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen. 306 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Alright, man, it's on standby. Ready to shoot. 307 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 In three, two, one. 308 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Good job. 309 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Yeah. 310 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000 I'm truly tiring. 311 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 One of the only problems I've found is even from up here. 312 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 I can see the imprint of your legs through that suit. 313 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 I can see that they're legs. 314 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,000 As you can see, I don't have the ability to stay down there for a very long time. 315 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000 I need to take a lot of practice to be able to go back and forth. 316 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,000 And also, it just kind of feels unnatural. I'm not used to these monofins. 317 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Alright guys, I got the video footage, the bench shot of your dive. 318 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 You did a really good job getting the mermaid motion. 319 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 It's just being able to stand her water and seeing your legs. 320 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,000 You know, if you had somebody that had a lot of practice 321 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 and you had a better costume, a better fin, 322 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 I think we could make it look almost exact. 323 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Being bound that way, it was really difficult for me to replicate the movement from the original footage. 324 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000 The good news is there's actually a professional mermaid that works here in Australia. 325 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 So we're going to phone her. We're going to find out if she can come out and meet us. 326 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Hi, this is Hannah. We were wondering if you were available because we need your help today. 327 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 So, how was it? 328 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Okay, Larry. 329 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Wasn't it? 330 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000 I am just... 331 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 So guys, Australia, it was amazing. 332 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Now if you remember, in 2009, we have this videographer 333 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:59,000 who comes out of the Great Barrier Reef saying that he's filmed some type of creature he thinks to be a mermaid. 334 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 He was very reluctant to talk to us. 335 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,000 But he did point out the location and the area where this was filmed. 336 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 So that's where we headed. 337 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:21,000 So the first thing we did was a reef hunt, hoping that maybe we could find some kind of large mammal in the water that would resemble a mermaid. 338 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000 At one point, we thought we found something, but it actually turned out to be a reef shark. 339 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 I'm no king. 340 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Yeah. 341 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Even though we couldn't find a mermaid, we decided, you know what? 342 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,000 There is a creature that has been mistaken for a mermaid for centuries. 343 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000 The dugong. 344 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,000 So we went to the Sydney Aquarium to test this theory. Check out the video. 345 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Wow. 346 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Look at that. 347 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,000 The dugong has a horizontal tail, which is different than fish which have a vertical fin. 348 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 But in this video, it definitely wasn't an exact match. 349 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000 So we decided that we should make our own mermaid suit. 350 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 I got into it and dove in. 351 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Not bad. 352 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Look at the motion that she's able to create. 353 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 I'm really surprised how similar it looks. 354 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,000 It turned out well, but at the end of it, you know, I really couldn't hold my breath for very long and I didn't get the movement exactly right. 355 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 So we decided that maybe we should look for a pro. 356 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 And I actually found a professional mermaid. 357 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Really? 358 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Wait, there's actually professional mermaids in existence? 359 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Yes. 360 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Now this girl's name is Hannah. She has years of experience and she has a suit that she's made that looks perfect. 361 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,000 And being a professional, she could hold her breath a really long time and have that movement nailed. 362 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Look what happens. 363 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,000 This is amazing, guys. You guys totally nailed it with this recreation. 364 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 This is a hoax. 365 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000 As much as I would love to believe the mermaid theory, I think this is fake. 366 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Not only that, but if a mermaid really did exist, it wouldn't be the classic depiction that we know of this beautiful woman half fish creature. 367 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 I had a CG model created. 368 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Humans can't survive in water that's colder than 98.6 for a very long time. 369 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,000 So they would need a thicker skin insulation, probably something very blubbery. 370 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,000 That's weird. 371 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Not only that, the salt water would create this skin that kind of shrivels up because of osmosis. 372 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:55,000 And the hair would only get in the way and would cause drag, so it would probably be hairless. 373 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 So it would look a lot like a dugong. 374 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 That's what you call a debunk slam dunk. 375 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Tell me about Hawaii, huh? 376 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Let me start off by saying it was visually stunning. 377 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:19,000 If you recall the case, this is where our witness, Norma, had been taking photographs of her granddaughter. 378 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:29,000 And in the photos, we have this ghostly apparition, which Norma believes and the family believes that is one of the guardian spirits protecting her granddaughter. 379 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Hawaii is beautiful. 380 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Really, do we get a case that has such a connection to the local culture like this case does? 381 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:57,000 We get in with this story about a young girl her family believes that a guardian angel watches over her. 382 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000 It's called the Oumakua. 383 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000 The fact that there's physical evidence of it is just astonishing. 384 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,000 A lot of people think that it's more of a mistaken identity with a camera strap. 385 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,000 She claims that she cut the camera strap off. She claims that she's used several different cameras. 386 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,000 I'm really looking forward to being able to actually meet the family and talk with Norma's granddaughter as well as Norma. 387 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 This is it right down here. 388 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Aloha. 389 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Aloha. 390 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 You're the photographer. 391 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Yeah. 392 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 You think you can tell us your experience here? 393 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:51,000 I started taking pictures, just regular pictures of my granddaughter and we ended up having these white anomalies. 394 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,000 So Norma, a lot of people believe that this is proof that there are guardian angels. 395 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Does your granddaughter still feel the presence around her of a protective spirit? 396 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,000 She's seen it. 397 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000 She has seen it? 398 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Yes. 399 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Is it possible we can meet your granddaughter? 400 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Yes. 401 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Aloha. 402 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 You're the photographer. 403 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Yes. 404 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Does your granddaughter still feel the presence around her of a protective spirit? 405 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 She's seen it. 406 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000 She has seen it? 407 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Yes. 408 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Is it possible we can meet your granddaughter? 409 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Yes. 410 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Hi there, I'm Shilan. 411 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,000 I understand that you want your identity disguised, so what we've planned on doing is setting up a really bright light behind you. 412 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,000 It'll actually disguise your features and pretty much make you just a silhouette. 413 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000 We just want to talk to you about some of your experiences. 414 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Do you actually feel this presence when the pictures are being shot? 415 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Not actually when the pictures are being shot, but mostly at night. 416 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 It's just a sense of someone watching you. 417 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Now in a lot of these photographs, it seems like you're looking at the object. 418 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Something tells me to look like unconsciously. 419 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000 I'm wondering if you would give us permission to take pictures of you as you are right now? 420 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Yeah, that's okay. 421 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000 We're going to give it a go ourselves. 422 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000 We're going to use your camera. 423 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 We're going to take some pictures of your granddaughter. 424 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000 We're going to see if we can capture any apparitions, okay? 425 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,000 So you just sit there, I'm just going to take a couple pictures, and we're going to see if we can capture anything ourselves. 426 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Even if nothing comes out in these pictures, we're going to set up a control lab next door to test a number of popular theories as to what these ghostly images could be. 427 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Right now we're building our examination room. 428 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,000 In it, we're going to have Chilan's photo handling table with all the equipment to handle the physical prints. 429 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:23,000 We'll also have Larry's digital processing station where we can scan in and zoom on any of the photos. 430 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:30,000 I was lucky enough to get a color processor so that we can process all of the film and we can eliminate any outside contamination. 431 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Now I'm going to develop pictures of Norma's granddaughter to see if anything unusual materializes. 432 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 I'm going to take a look at the camera. 433 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Guys, here's the first roll that I was able to print. 434 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000 And this is just from our interview right now. 435 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Honestly, I'm not seeing anything remarkable in this. This just looks like we disguised her. 436 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000 I'm not really surprised. 437 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:11,000 To really address the skeptics view of what those pictures are, the next thing we have to do is really decide on the experiments and decide what picture we're going to replicate. 438 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Kind of drawn towards this one, guys. 439 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Well, it seems like it's obvious the next thing to do is to see if we can replicate this picture as closely as possible. 440 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Right. 441 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Now, I'm not sure how we're going to get this sort of smearing. I think we'll be able to get pretty close to the streaking. 442 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000 You look at this right now. I think we nailed it. 443 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000 This matched it perfectly. 444 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Yeah, it's an amazing replica. 445 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Let's not mess with it anymore. Let's start our experiments. 446 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Let's do it. 447 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:51,000 The camera strap is a no-brainer. I mean, it was really common for that to happen before there were LCD viewfinders. 448 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,000 People would look right through the camera and then the strap would fall through right in front. 449 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 They wouldn't notice it. They would snap the picture and there you would have it. 450 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,000 We're going to put a camera strap in front of it, kind of in the same way that it appeared in the picture. 451 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Let me frame this up, though. 452 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Maybe she jumped into the bed of presence and the camera was maybe swinging. 453 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000 But wouldn't the camera, the picture be blurred as well? I mean, if there's movement? 454 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Not if this is really fast speed camera. It's a welded environment and with the flash, these automatics adjust. 455 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Alright guys, now that we've shot these photographs, I'm going to go ahead and process this film. 456 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Wow. 457 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Doesn't that look... doesn't that look... yeah, good, right? 458 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Surprisingly, really young. But it almost didn't come out transparent enough. 459 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,000 I'm not seeing the texture. It's way too blown out, way too wide. 460 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:11,000 We've managed to show that, yes, you can do a very close approximation to the original photos, but our work isn't done yet. 461 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000 I'm sure you guys have noticed how hot and humid it is here. 462 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 You know that heat and humidity totally degrade film. 463 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:29,000 The film stock that Norma had, if it had degraded, then yeah, perhaps the film itself was damaged and it malfunctioned. 464 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,000 I think the next thing we have to do is test how climate can wreak havoc on film. 465 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Heat and humidity cause film to release an acid, and that acid gives off a type of very strong vinegary odor. 466 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 So it's actually called the vinegar syndrome. 467 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Now what we have here is some acetic acid that we're going to mix with some water. 468 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,000 We're probably going to do about 2 grams, and that'll give us the acid that we're going to put onto the film. 469 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000 This is unexposed film, so it has to be done completely in the dark. 470 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Lights out. 3, 2, 1, dark. 471 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked, Paranormal Files. 472 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Did you guys just hear that? 473 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:31,000 So the team is actually going to undertake an experiment where we'll see and test the weather damage on film. 474 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Lights out. 3, 2, 1, dark. 475 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,000 I've pulled the film out, now I'm going to dip the Q-tip in the acid solution that I've made. 476 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Great. Now I'm actually putting the acid on the emulsion side of the film. 477 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,000 That'll mimic the same effects that weather has on the film here. 478 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:02,000 We're going to wind this film back up, take pictures with it, and expose it traditionally, just like we would with a regular roll of film. 479 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,000 So we can turn the lights on now. 480 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Perfect. Ooh, that's great. 481 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:22,000 So I've loaded the vinegar syndrome photographs onto the monitor, and I'm pulling those up right now. 482 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:32,000 I mean, we have a nice little streak there, but the color's wrong. I mean, obviously it's blue, and what are we seeing in the picture? 483 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,000 It's almost like you were able to get this sort of just pattern, almost like randomness. 484 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000 This is by no means anything similar to what Norma got. 485 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:53,000 I think it's safe to say that this was definitely not it, but I think it's time we start to explore the possibility that maybe this was a hoax with a more elaborate setup. 486 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:06,000 For this next test, we're creating a hologram, which consists of four parts. A clear plexiglass sheet, which is in front of our mannequin. 487 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:18,000 A bright light, and a black backdrop, and on the backdrop, I'm going to be attaching what is going to be our ghost. 488 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:26,000 So I'm going to be hitting the tubing with this light at a 45-degree angle, and that hopefully will give us the reflection in the plexiglass. 489 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Yeah, that's right about right. If I stand on this, and I think we'll get it. 490 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Yeah, you know, it has to be real low. It's kind of a surprise. 491 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Yeah, it's right over her head. 492 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Not perfect by any means, but you do see a ghostly apparition. 493 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:54,000 If this was a hoax, they had to go through a very elaborate setup like we had to do here, and I'm guessing that it wasn't a hoax. 494 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,000 Even though we can replicate the results of creating a light streak that appear ghostly, 495 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:07,000 that doesn't say that that's how these images were being formed in the first place. 496 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,000 We owe it to the family, and we owe it to ourselves to have a nighttime investigation. 497 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,000 So we're all set up for the nighttime investigation, Chee-Won. You're going to be here at a control center. 498 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000 That's right. 499 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000 Yep, we're each going to have a walkie-talkie, so we're going to stay in radio contact. 500 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:35,000 You have a surveillance camera in the living room, where the main photograph has been taken of the apparition, 501 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,000 another one covering the stairs, and yet a third one up in Noma Granddaughter's bedroom. 502 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Here are your walkies. This one's for you. It's already set up. 503 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Thank you. 504 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 This one's yours, Bill, and I will be down here with mine. 505 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Yeah. 506 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Ready to go green? 507 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,000 Yes, we are. 508 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,000 On three, two, one, dark. 509 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:06,000 I'm going to start Noma's granddaughter's funeral. 510 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000 I will capture anything you see, Larry. 511 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,000 So we're going to do our sweep, see if we have any interesting things that are happening. 512 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Are you getting any anomalous readings up there? 513 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000 In the room itself, I'm not really getting anything. 514 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000 On my eternal imager. 515 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Call me that, Larry. 516 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 It is definitely warmer in this closet. 517 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:58,000 I have no idea why. I mean, there's no, it's like a wall of warmth right here. 518 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Chilon for Bill. 519 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Cover Bill. 520 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 I said that she shot the picture. 521 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000 Did you guys just hear that over the walkie? 522 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,000 I did not hear anything. Over. 523 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 What did you hear, Larry? 524 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000 I honestly have no idea what it was. 525 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000 The sound was, I had never heard anything like it. 526 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000 I'm going to go ahead and come back down. 527 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Did you see anything? 528 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 I didn't see anything. 529 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,000 I heard a sound over the walkie that I've never heard anything like it before. 530 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Now I'm a skeptic at heart. 531 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:50,000 And it makes me think that all the noises could just be a malfunction of wires crossing or a bad battery. 532 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,000 I want to call Norma in here and have an EVP session or at least try to. 533 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Larry and Chilon, I've brought Norma in here. Norma, if you could have a seat here on the couch. 534 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:11,000 If there is a spirit, a guardian spirit or any of the other spirits that may visit this house with this, 535 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,000 can you please identify yourself? 536 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Did you guys just hear that? 537 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Well, let me stop by saying Hawaii is stunningly beautiful. 538 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,000 If you recall the case, this is where our witness, Norma, had been taking photographs of her granddaughter 539 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:47,000 and in the photos you have this ghostly apparition which Norma believes and the family believes 540 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,000 that is one of the guardian spirits protecting her granddaughter. 541 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000 So we started out by taking pictures of Norma's granddaughter. Take a look. 542 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Of course she wanted to stay anonymous so we blurred out her face a little bit 543 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,000 but you can also see that there's nothing around her at all that could be mistaken as a guardian spirit. 544 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Now we decided to take one picture from when she was little and try to replicate that for our experience. 545 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000 The most popular theory is that this is just a camera strap so we tested that. 546 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Now you see the bounce from the flash of the camera strap is not matching the original photo that we chose. 547 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 It's way more solid. 548 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 It is very reflective. 549 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Yeah. 550 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,000 We decided to move on to the possibility that it maybe had some sort of atmospheric solution. 551 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,000 That's right. When you think about Hawaii, it's a very hot, humid climate and a lot of people don't know this 552 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,000 but you know hot weather can actually corrode film. It's called the vinegar syndrome. 553 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000 So we decided to run our own vinegar syndrome test on the film. 554 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,000 I took some acid and painted it on to the unexposed negative. 555 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,000 The smear with the acid does not appear to be cylindrical. 556 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000 So the test got even more labored after this. 557 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,000 We decided to test the theory that maybe it was a hoax and we did that by generating a hologram. 558 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000 But it was just such an elaborate setup that we decided it wasn't a hoax. 559 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,000 At that point we decided, you know what, let's go ahead and do a night-time investigation. 560 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,000 And this is the crazy thing guys. Bill and Larry did not have their walkie-talkies on. 561 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:42,000 My walkie was on and all of a sudden I hear a pop, a hum of interference, some crackling and then it just shuts off. 562 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000 It's strange. 563 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Bill's rang an EVP. All of a sudden, same crackling. 564 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Was it a sound that's not typical for the walkie? 565 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Well, go ahead and play this EVP and you guys let me know what you hear. 566 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Excited to hear this. 567 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:09,000 If there is a guardian spirit or any of the other spirits that may visit this house with us, can you please identify yourself? 568 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Very pronounced. 569 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Yeah, it's really, really clear. 570 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 It could have just been a walkie interference. 571 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,000 But it's a little strange that it sounds like somebody saying, I'm watching you right now. 572 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000 That is weird. 573 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:37,000 You possibly had some electromagnetic interference and you guys heard your walkies going off and breaking squelches. 574 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000 It's interesting. 575 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:52,000 So even though we didn't get any definitive proof of paranormal activity in the house, we cannot discount the personal experiences that we all had. 576 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Okay, fair enough. 577 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000 What do you think, Shilohan? 578 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 I gotta say, I was there when I first looked at these pictures. 579 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,000 The most obvious explanation for me is the answer. It is a camera strap. 580 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000 I could agree with that. 581 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000 I could agree with that. 582 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Yeah, I agree. I think she nailed it. 583 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,000 It sounds like we all agree pretty much that what was going on is some type of lens interference. 584 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000 A camera strap. 585 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000 A camera strap. 586 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:26,000 But perhaps there is something paranormal going on that may not be related to what they saw in the photos.